Champ spawns are too thick.
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14th Feb

Pull, murmurs, omega and I are very discouraged from doing champ spawns. We couldn't even do coon with four-and-a-half tamers(waki bolted prematurely), which is soloable by tamers on most other servers, especially OSI. You saw how five people delt with the rikktor spawn over two hours Sunday.

I'm excited to see champs become more inclusive, and really want to see Casual Taming swell up with everybody's tamers, but if we're not producing power scrolls, then we're not a spawning guild and the group will flounder and die. Without the organization we've been working on(mostly relationships, but also runes, standards and coordination), organizing a spawn, which btw are much harder than friday events, will be like herding cats and impossible to pull off with this server's population. 

Please lower the amount of shit that comes out of a champ alter, or make candles appear faster. Spawning guilds are a way to make champs inclusive, and the only way we would come about a harrower naturally.

This is what people expect when doing a champ spawn:

vermin: slowly soloable by a capable tamer(think caleb) in an hour or so; two+ decent characters 30 minutes
undead/arachnid: 2-5 casual tamers/mages(the trinsic invasion is a good example) in 45 mins
demon/dragon: 3-6 casual tamers/mages in an hour or so
oaks: about as hard as coon/rikktor is now, so basically 10 average players(we don't have), or four+ highly specialized(fey slayer, etc) characters

We'd be very happy with a spread like this, and we're more than willing to help test solutions!

Edit: also, I'd expect everybody and their mother to find and mark the coon spawn, so if you're worried about someone solo farming the easiest champs with a gdragon because they'd be meant for a few average characters, keep in mind that it'd be hard for them to go unnoticed by people that'd be more than willing to leech off their hard work(just like OSI).
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Last Edit: 14th Feb by Super Hamsters
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14th Feb

Ok I understand. I've adjusted the spawn and did a quick restart this morning. Let me know if that plays better.
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Last Edit: 14th Feb by Abracadabra
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14th Feb

Well, ... If this will turn into a tamer shard I will go on down the road. One of the reasons I left Atlantic shard was it was it was strictly a tamer shard. What I mean by that is, when I would do champs with UWF. Arguably one of the largest guilds on Atlantic.The only good loot went to tamers. (dragons).
Of coarse I am not saying dumb down Dragons. I was misunderstood in a previous post on that thought.
I am merely saying if there is no interest in dexers,here. Then there will be no potential for hunting partners for me.

As it is, I am perfectly happy here with my swordsman and treasure hunter for the moment. However, if there is no Dex'ers to hang with, because most if not all are running dragons to feed the adrenalin rush and make that gold....Then, I guess there is no real potential for hunting partners and comradery.
I am just an old school dexer more interested in comradery than gold and cool stuff.

Ok I got my flaim suit on... Fire away.
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If the people around you do not understand you....
Then you may be around the wrong people.

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15th Feb

OK I made another tweak to the champ spawns this morning after reports of them getting stuck. See how that goes and we'll take it from there.
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15th Feb

Van, the server is not necessarily a "tamer only server". It just happens Casual Tamers is a tamer only guild. We have alt chars too for t hunts, dexxers, faction wars, pvp, w/e. By no means are we trying to tweak champs to cater to only tamers. The OP was actual complaing that even 4.5 tamers could not beat barracoon (relatively the easiest) and thus no dexxer would ever have a chance. Check champs occasionally and if we are there clearing it, jump in and try to get credit.
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15th Feb

Also, I have long term plans to implement some features that will lend themselves to diverse groups to try and include everyone. It will take me a while to fully develop and test this, but I'll be counting on the players to help me out with that to make it right. Stay tuned
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